tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-172666132024-03-23T11:31:41.813-07:00Flight 93 HoaxThis blog will post articles that deal with flight 93 on 9/11/01 (the "hero" flight of "Let's Roll!" fame). In particular, this blog will focus on the idea that the flight was an elaborately constructed hoax.spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1167229191685279082020-12-31T12:59:00.000-08:002019-03-16T08:40:09.550-07:00Strangest "Plane Crash" Ever***Permanent top post***<br />
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***Permanent top post***spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-84796410396333274342012-01-21T07:30:00.000-08:002012-01-21T07:32:32.447-08:00Conclusive Proof That UA93 Didn't Crash in Shanksville, PA<a href="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/MORE-ACARS-CONFIRMATION.html" target="_blank">Pilots for Truth finds an ACARS smoking gun:</a> <blockquote>Furthermore, according to the NTSB animation reconstruction, the aircraft allegedly crashed in Shanksville at 10:03am(4). How can the aircraft possibly receive a message activating an audible signal in the airplane at 1410 (10:10am Eastern)? It can't if it crashed in Shanksville, it can if were in the vicinity of CMI. Finally, there is no possible way that an aircraft can receive a message from a remote ground station which is 500+ miles away. The range for remote ground stations is 200 miles, and that is only guaranteed above 29,000 feet(5). <p align="left">We now have several levels of corroboration demonstrating the aircraft were still airborne after their alleged crashes - </p> <p align="left">- From our first article, the logs themselves showing time sent and received based on statements made by Ed Ballinger,<br /> - Ground station routing based on flight tracking protocols,<br /> - Expert statements,<br /> - And now, messages that were received well out of range from Shanksville, PA after the time of the alleged crash.</p> <p align="left"><strong> It is conclusive, the 9/11 Aircraft were airborne long after their alleged crashes.</strong></p></blockquote><p align="left"><strong></strong></p><br /><br />THIS IS SOLID *PROOF* FOR THE OFFICIAL UA93 STORY BEING FALSE.spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-69883376011108606012009-10-24T06:12:00.000-07:002009-10-24T06:13:19.146-07:00The Cartwheel Explanation for the Flight 93 CrashSounds pretty bogus-- and pretty much nonsensical:<br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nkYOk3zxf54&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nkYOk3zxf54&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br /><br />Somehow I think a plane going over 500 mph, hitting wing first, is suddenly going to flop over and produce this crater: <br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/flight93%20ghost%20crater.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/400/flight93%20ghost%20crater.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br />Not to mention that Miller's explanation doesn't account for the perfect upside-down imprint.<br /><br />Meanwhile, more nonsense-- <a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2009/10/flight-93-literally-went-into-ground.html" target="_blank">the official explanation at the crash site has 80% of the plane going 15-30 feet under the ground</a>.spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-50249984376521568172009-07-30T10:27:00.001-07:002009-07-30T10:27:54.047-07:00FBI Claims 95% of Shredded and Buried UA93 Recovered Less Than Two Weeks After 9/11<a href="http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/24/inv.pennsylvania.site/index.html" target="_blank">CNN:</a><blockquote>September 24, 2001 Posted: 3:14 PM EDT (1914 GMT)<br /><br />SHANKSVILLE, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- The FBI announced Monday that its investigation of the site where a hijacked jet slammed into a field here is complete and that 95 percent of the plane was recovered.<br /><br />The federal investigation into the September 11 terrorist attacks continues.<br /><br />Evidence-gathering was halted Saturday afternoon and the pieces of United Airlines Flight 93 that had been recovered were turned over Sunday to the airline, with the exception of the flight data recorder and the voice recorder, which are being held and analyzed by the FBI, according to FBI agent Bill Crowley.<br /><br />Crowley said the biggest piece of the plane that was recovered was a 6-by-7-foot piece of the fuselage skin, including about four windows. The heaviest piece, Crowley said, was part of an engine fan, weighing about 1,000 pounds. </blockquote> This is really, really hard to believe, given the official story that much of the plane was buried deep underground and small pieces of the plane were found for acres around the official crash site. In fact, it sounds like total baloney. Keep in mind, that they are not only saying that they recovered 95% of the bris in less than two weeks, but that they managed to reconstruct the plane with the debris enough to know that they got 95%!!!<br /><br />I call bullshit.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2009/07/media-not-reporting-when-flight-93.html" target="_blank">Via KT</a>.spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-87079061227043660032007-02-07T13:16:00.001-08:002008-11-13T03:19:35.360-08:00Measuring the Flight 93 Crater: It's Still Too Small for a Boeing 757(click to enlarge images)<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFm1HswnrdbRpotXz5NEed8i7YoW9hBu4PKWwQLoNbjMXQRD8rtrLYpZ7EOQcuLEyIyf0G97-ZWcYiXLHVUrDdml8DZLF9VzYy_QVDn1tPUwJ0jAJtXwRFR7D7c0UvdGlF2irWYg/s1600-h/b757size.gif"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFm1HswnrdbRpotXz5NEed8i7YoW9hBu4PKWwQLoNbjMXQRD8rtrLYpZ7EOQcuLEyIyf0G97-ZWcYiXLHVUrDdml8DZLF9VzYy_QVDn1tPUwJ0jAJtXwRFR7D7c0UvdGlF2irWYg/s400/b757size.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028852949992495218" border="0" /></a><br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhN-E3CiTcm1tRgay3DpQ1otV6v44qTxZIT1ePgW91iLvwooPHT8Ax1QQJKuefHWDVhj3ZSjjFf578c0Rfl4_8HfzZ946J7QdU8dwz-WEo9-4Md8_5p9F-CcW3VQgTZH5ep-OczdQ/s1600-h/crater_rcfp.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhN-E3CiTcm1tRgay3DpQ1otV6v44qTxZIT1ePgW91iLvwooPHT8Ax1QQJKuefHWDVhj3ZSjjFf578c0Rfl4_8HfzZ946J7QdU8dwz-WEo9-4Md8_5p9F-CcW3VQgTZH5ep-OczdQ/s400/crater_rcfp.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028852563445438562" border="0" /></a><br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYHpjQy3Wfrhc4YDVGDOVrnj1EZ4386QPzzuqYUVOwFTyrYmHFWpFJJbksByDNqQf-BVxnD8q4cG7wsOcajDOv1CxPnYoUfErhy6Tf3iAPbB89NHvMjuR9Nyu0l1h2QE6CCPL2pQ/s1600-h/aerial_msnbc.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYHpjQy3Wfrhc4YDVGDOVrnj1EZ4386QPzzuqYUVOwFTyrYmHFWpFJJbksByDNqQf-BVxnD8q4cG7wsOcajDOv1CxPnYoUfErhy6Tf3iAPbB89NHvMjuR9Nyu0l1h2QE6CCPL2pQ/s400/aerial_msnbc.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028852305747400786" border="0" /></a><br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiO9MREz3AKcCxdgHZSPR3HqkRZRPl3ouX6VPPpys32w5aflHe7yMXtIi-PY0woAhh6j541yys-stk2GLWmuseq8vvdi5IjTJp_F9oljdPhQWyqOiBVoSabT9PVTy8BddNiA-9l5A/s1600-h/crater_ap.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiO9MREz3AKcCxdgHZSPR3HqkRZRPl3ouX6VPPpys32w5aflHe7yMXtIi-PY0woAhh6j541yys-stk2GLWmuseq8vvdi5IjTJp_F9oljdPhQWyqOiBVoSabT9PVTy8BddNiA-9l5A/s400/crater_ap.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028852155423545410" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Here, A and C denote the "engine" marks, which should be 44 feet apart (center to center) for a Boeing 757. B denotes the central crater presumably made by a the fuselage. We can assume the legs of the person are 3 feet. The orange line denotes the top three feet of a six foot person, and a torso and head are sketched into the image.<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgvie0ERc8CJSmFpF7laeRAhz1tP-BV84_4Fq5TT7IBszyACk6gKtHj7sRn5e-s9ued07GqQeZNAvaMzM-ZnQhpg30rknWfuTbAKtOAlGqsc-v0Mn_mb0TTOvw4h0hvw38tTLwrbA/s1600-h/crater_rcfp.marked.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgvie0ERc8CJSmFpF7laeRAhz1tP-BV84_4Fq5TT7IBszyACk6gKtHj7sRn5e-s9ued07GqQeZNAvaMzM-ZnQhpg30rknWfuTbAKtOAlGqsc-v0Mn_mb0TTOvw4h0hvw38tTLwrbA/s400/crater_rcfp.marked.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028853456798636162" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Using the measurements from above, we can assign distances to this overheard view of the crater. Now we can clearly see the engine marks are too close together (only 31 feet or so from A to C):<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-a0di00hVcOcJKurBFXmskJzXZ_qfkNzboR5kHRGWidbBZC9pbJ-1TmgOOZP5HoWRkXn6SRvx7XW44AM4sXtKjs9i8lvv8zv_P_lgou3qoR2xhIqVADVkYTXryfZ2ckNJm47vMw/s1600-h/aerial_msnbc.marked.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-a0di00hVcOcJKurBFXmskJzXZ_qfkNzboR5kHRGWidbBZC9pbJ-1TmgOOZP5HoWRkXn6SRvx7XW44AM4sXtKjs9i8lvv8zv_P_lgou3qoR2xhIqVADVkYTXryfZ2ckNJm47vMw/s400/aerial_msnbc.marked.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028851373739497506" border="0" /></a><br /><br />This photo confirms that the engine spacing is too close together (about 33 feet, close to what was measured above):<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiX2T0uKtubGU25iZA0_Tghc7mPeR8Sos3feb7ZuR5G0WldDy_ZSbs-apdRhWcPli5QwWifKcpIYkbVpe4ROtwRE-zJGCjiH-IE_yVr-YIwFg2o0grTLxsopMFJVqdk3-oPVbK-YQ/s1600-h/crater_ap.marked.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiX2T0uKtubGU25iZA0_Tghc7mPeR8Sos3feb7ZuR5G0WldDy_ZSbs-apdRhWcPli5QwWifKcpIYkbVpe4ROtwRE-zJGCjiH-IE_yVr-YIwFg2o0grTLxsopMFJVqdk3-oPVbK-YQ/s400/crater_ap.marked.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028851227710609426" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Here is a Boeing 757 super-imposed on the picture above at proper scale-- the engines don't line up:<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJikFqy6BPsoxfqhvf6gc5XjF2U7uOAUnGYV9X5uOyQ6kKxszug6sN_6ByjeYEw0-lucXiQyhsupDrHQ3pUx53h4_F50uok32-Hoju7onlqaqUiDwKtQTg7zRaSddSpEVMY9Y1bA/s1600-h/crater_ap.marked.plusplane.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJikFqy6BPsoxfqhvf6gc5XjF2U7uOAUnGYV9X5uOyQ6kKxszug6sN_6ByjeYEw0-lucXiQyhsupDrHQ3pUx53h4_F50uok32-Hoju7onlqaqUiDwKtQTg7zRaSddSpEVMY9Y1bA/s400/crater_ap.marked.plusplane.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028850982897473538" border="0" /></a>spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-15360157342023922922007-02-09T10:21:00.000-08:002008-11-13T03:19:35.131-08:00Measuring the Flight 93 Crater Again: It's Still Too Small for a Boeing 757Following up on the post <a href="http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2007/02/measuring-flight-93-crater-its-still.html" target="_blank">here</a>, this official government image also supports my previous measurements and significantly, the idea that the distance between the engine craters (or engine "scars") is too small:<br /><br />(click to enlarge images)<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJNCvPuotiAJJVkzlhzD4pcVmw6HHT2XmG9b1GB4-sz3MeavTAEE4aVW7AYu874-J81mC_h87TtysW4KKWNPJCa2xFQD4kJ_I7FrevO_nGAQIon-ApsnyqF9uMXM7EF_pRYgi9rw/s1600-h/flight+93+crater+aerial.jpg"><img style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJNCvPuotiAJJVkzlhzD4pcVmw6HHT2XmG9b1GB4-sz3MeavTAEE4aVW7AYu874-J81mC_h87TtysW4KKWNPJCa2xFQD4kJ_I7FrevO_nGAQIon-ApsnyqF9uMXM7EF_pRYgi9rw/s400/flight+93+crater+aerial.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029201514034308754" /></a><br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXZbdcvsBajaxwsMIM3gEeJyuDxCeGsV1cPwrYHPun4jHQq46OHFDF6fe7nqPm0a63GpFV8kPU4Wg69vyMF2ZsIgcbZmmTZKWOX9pqvTQyRYj8nrK7bsT5EhWo3Q-iwrp5lbkokA/s1600-h/flight+93+crater+aerial.marked.jpg"><img style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXZbdcvsBajaxwsMIM3gEeJyuDxCeGsV1cPwrYHPun4jHQq46OHFDF6fe7nqPm0a63GpFV8kPU4Wg69vyMF2ZsIgcbZmmTZKWOX9pqvTQyRYj8nrK7bsT5EhWo3Q-iwrp5lbkokA/s400/flight+93+crater+aerial.marked.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029201286401042050" /></a>spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-3704034731819047242007-02-09T11:19:00.000-08:002008-11-13T03:19:35.115-08:00Dry Grass Is Resistant to Being Burnt by Exploding Boeing 757 Wings Full of Jet FuelIf this is true, I guess I really DON'T know much about plane crashes:<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKFdeSTN0Jxy2oGlyYRb7dbXZ0Ui8nTOMv0sKU9pdJzheWgGOQjDF5E3G4tAxrPpxYMD66Qjy_7w8PpJ2KKXvRRSXIqlfYaqXfVc5VeYdQ086pNoJwKEPyy4mVaxLf54xTlN-Kag/s1600-h/00037r.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKFdeSTN0Jxy2oGlyYRb7dbXZ0Ui8nTOMv0sKU9pdJzheWgGOQjDF5E3G4tAxrPpxYMD66Qjy_7w8PpJ2KKXvRRSXIqlfYaqXfVc5VeYdQ086pNoJwKEPyy4mVaxLf54xTlN-Kag/s400/00037r.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029564851087681186" border="0" /></a>spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-47210651516126571752007-02-09T13:17:00.001-08:002008-11-13T03:19:35.099-08:00The Official Flight 93 Crash Story Violates Laws of Momentum<a href="http://usinfo.state.gov/photogallery/index.php?album=/nineeleven/penn&image=5987206.jpg" target="_blank">Below is an official government photo of the flight 93 crash scene supposedly from 9/12/01.</a> Northwards is to the top of the photo. "Wing" gashes are black marks in the middle of the photo; the central crater is not readily discerned but is between the two wing gashes. Burnt grass and burnt forest is to the south of the crater.<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEij4wccWCC6yO-IiPAu5ovI04cEbsjmb3GoNE8CWKn9W0kFdlWuMPBKotDB1G3yQhh2It0cC1CFEft2OK04qfOa1ientl6XQGvbNT7KzfHfP43n2B_ntE0krDuVt5Q4sKKZeqbWyA/s1600-h/statedeptphoto.jpeg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEij4wccWCC6yO-IiPAu5ovI04cEbsjmb3GoNE8CWKn9W0kFdlWuMPBKotDB1G3yQhh2It0cC1CFEft2OK04qfOa1ientl6XQGvbNT7KzfHfP43n2B_ntE0krDuVt5Q4sKKZeqbWyA/s400/statedeptphoto.jpeg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029608973286713010" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Government photo of the crater looking west along the length of the "wing" gashes. Note the unburnt grass on the right (on the northwards side of the crater).<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhN-E3CiTcm1tRgay3DpQ1otV6v44qTxZIT1ePgW91iLvwooPHT8Ax1QQJKuefHWDVhj3ZSjjFf578c0Rfl4_8HfzZ946J7QdU8dwz-WEo9-4Md8_5p9F-CcW3VQgTZH5ep-OczdQ/s1600-h/crater_rcfp.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhN-E3CiTcm1tRgay3DpQ1otV6v44qTxZIT1ePgW91iLvwooPHT8Ax1QQJKuefHWDVhj3ZSjjFf578c0Rfl4_8HfzZ946J7QdU8dwz-WEo9-4Md8_5p9F-CcW3VQgTZH5ep-OczdQ/s400/crater_rcfp.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028852563445438562" border="0" /></a><br />Another view from a similar angle as in the photo above but further out near the tips of the "wing" gashes. Note the unburnt grass out here.<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKFdeSTN0Jxy2oGlyYRb7dbXZ0Ui8nTOMv0sKU9pdJzheWgGOQjDF5E3G4tAxrPpxYMD66Qjy_7w8PpJ2KKXvRRSXIqlfYaqXfVc5VeYdQ086pNoJwKEPyy4mVaxLf54xTlN-Kag/s1600-h/00037r.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKFdeSTN0Jxy2oGlyYRb7dbXZ0Ui8nTOMv0sKU9pdJzheWgGOQjDF5E3G4tAxrPpxYMD66Qjy_7w8PpJ2KKXvRRSXIqlfYaqXfVc5VeYdQ086pNoJwKEPyy4mVaxLf54xTlN-Kag/s400/00037r.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029564851087681186" border="0" /></a><br /><br />This aerial photo shows the "tail" scar on the left (northwards) side of the crater:<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYHpjQy3Wfrhc4YDVGDOVrnj1EZ4386QPzzuqYUVOwFTyrYmHFWpFJJbksByDNqQf-BVxnD8q4cG7wsOcajDOv1CxPnYoUfErhy6Tf3iAPbB89NHvMjuR9Nyu0l1h2QE6CCPL2pQ/s1600-h/aerial_msnbc.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYHpjQy3Wfrhc4YDVGDOVrnj1EZ4386QPzzuqYUVOwFTyrYmHFWpFJJbksByDNqQf-BVxnD8q4cG7wsOcajDOv1CxPnYoUfErhy6Tf3iAPbB89NHvMjuR9Nyu0l1h2QE6CCPL2pQ/s400/aerial_msnbc.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028852305747400786" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Diagram of the official crash scene (the top of the diagram is northwards) froma similar view as in the top photo:<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhp395p8VBBpwfcjI740SJpYGSPLrvDcdI-sXoa439EHCbpXeMGsLB-PvLfNwLcTjFdRHDcx8o0BC-2IlL1xbuG5rukIzGr3VdBtvwmP3qSu_MoaTNvn8GlvGlfsJM8Nbp9X_AKig/s1600-h/Slide1.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhp395p8VBBpwfcjI740SJpYGSPLrvDcdI-sXoa439EHCbpXeMGsLB-PvLfNwLcTjFdRHDcx8o0BC-2IlL1xbuG5rukIzGr3VdBtvwmP3qSu_MoaTNvn8GlvGlfsJM8Nbp9X_AKig/s400/Slide1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029609209509914306" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Everyone should be able to agree about what I presented above. It is just a description of the crash scene using official photos as evidence.<br /><br />Now keep in mind, NO LARGE PLANE DEBRIS was found on the ground around the Flight 93 crash site. By large, I mean no intact engines, tail sections, wing sections, no landing gear struts, no intact seats, no pieces of fuselage larger than a few feet across (and only two of these). None of the large debris seen in almost every other plane crash since 9/11.<br /><br />OFFICIALLY, most of the plane went into the ground in the crater. The black boxes were supposedly found 15 or more feet below ground, along with most of the fuselage. Many people bought this story because there was no significant plane debris outside of the crater. <br /><br />Again, this is the official story.<br /><br />Now.. .we've never seen photos of the excavated crater showing the buried fuselage. The FBI says 95% of the plane was recovered, but we've never seen pictures of this recovered debris.<br /><br />We've seen 3 pictures of "large" debris, two chunks of fuselage maybe 4 x 4 feet each, and a hunk of engine about 2 x 3 feet supposedly thrust into the ground by the crash. Two of these pieces of debris have signs of being planted, as I have noted before.<br /><br />Nonetheless, let's try to understand what happened with this crash.<br /><br />UA93 officially impacted the ground flying inverted at a 40 degree nose-down angle.<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjS2eyzhRMcDLhny12aErgGGzQ66hgxBlk_aczn5DQPyqpizL6JnDkdlVVdYdTMGxi86GxV94O2QGbQBbWiBkm5jFr8kB0Ef4RmgiHs97csUUkaodHv4PuOaxFXrfLCjmG0h3oeZQ/s1600-h/Slide2.1.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjS2eyzhRMcDLhny12aErgGGzQ66hgxBlk_aczn5DQPyqpizL6JnDkdlVVdYdTMGxi86GxV94O2QGbQBbWiBkm5jFr8kB0Ef4RmgiHs97csUUkaodHv4PuOaxFXrfLCjmG0h3oeZQ/s400/Slide2.1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029609617531807474" border="0" /></a><br /><br />If the plane crashes into the ground such that it explodes and burrows into the ground, there should be a significant deflection of debris BACKWARDS (as well as other directions). <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--_RGM4Abv8" target="_blank">Remember the video of the F4 crashing into the concrete wall. Much of the plane debris was deflected backwards.</a> But for the flight 93 crash site, the grass wasn't even BURNT on the edge of the north side of the crater!<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiyv-RGT8SHJ2-qIlsLzzMUORk8Kd3rqX7e7LelgwDZeCKijsviXLJqLHBy1Q-uSeQM4hqjwukhWhpZF6YGbCXi2bYzHH-vKWgQ30AmZ8L5AkrX3JcStwMCxOinE8Oss1wSW5i8Qw/s1600-h/Slide2.2.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiyv-RGT8SHJ2-qIlsLzzMUORk8Kd3rqX7e7LelgwDZeCKijsviXLJqLHBy1Q-uSeQM4hqjwukhWhpZF6YGbCXi2bYzHH-vKWgQ30AmZ8L5AkrX3JcStwMCxOinE8Oss1wSW5i8Qw/s400/Slide2.2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029609501567690466" border="0" /></a><br /> <br />On the other hand, if the plane crashes and at the same time bounces off the ground, then debris would be flung mainly forward. But then there should be much more big debris.<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgZ0RIvhXaROegkW_Fg2pUgZwfV_045oWqRSeDCVdKYgxUXydWxc6AA6FC6Xwk8fNbohdvx_4EZOf1MWRjerBIe9VIEevlVly-zh89_sxh4poB0hxuPYWYdkbnXdExsHp2vXRLTNQ/s1600-h/Slide2.3.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgZ0RIvhXaROegkW_Fg2pUgZwfV_045oWqRSeDCVdKYgxUXydWxc6AA6FC6Xwk8fNbohdvx_4EZOf1MWRjerBIe9VIEevlVly-zh89_sxh4poB0hxuPYWYdkbnXdExsHp2vXRLTNQ/s400/Slide2.3.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029609419963311826" border="0" /></a><br /><br />An analogy here might be useful. Imagine a hose shooting a high-pressure stream of water on a hard flat surface, at a 40 degree angle. You can see the water primarily splashes forward. This is analogous to the plane crashing and the debris bouncing off the ground and spraying forward. <br /><br />Now, imagine a hose shooting a high-pressure stream of water at a 40 degree angle into a shallow hole in the ground. Now you should see that a lot of water is going to deflect backwards, back towards the hose. This is analogous to the plane crashing and burrowing into the ground and spraying debris backwards. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Physics, simple physics, says the official flight 93 crash story is just WRONG. </span>spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-9550655119848394442007-02-12T16:15:00.001-08:002008-11-13T03:19:34.904-08:00The Final Nail In The Coffin: Irrefutable Proof the Flight 93 Crash Scene Is a LieAs I have discussed previously (for instance, <a href="http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2007/02/official-flight-93-crash-story-violates.html">here</a> and <a href="http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2007/02/measuring-flight-93-crater-its-still.html">here</a> and <a href="http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2007/01/engine-trouble.html">here</a> and <a href="http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2007/02/what-is-more-nutty.html">here</a>), there are many reasons to think the official flight 93 crash story is a lie.<br /><br />Here I offer rock-solid proof that the official flight 93 crash story is a lie.<br /><br />Here is an aerial view of the crater, from the southwest, looking northeast. The plane officially came from the north, and thus would have come from the top of the picture. Notice the wing scars are towards the top, northern side of the crater-- this is important. Also, notice the apparent tail imprint made on the north side of the crater. This mark was described as a tail imprint in the book "Among the Heroes", written about flight 93.<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYHpjQy3Wfrhc4YDVGDOVrnj1EZ4386QPzzuqYUVOwFTyrYmHFWpFJJbksByDNqQf-BVxnD8q4cG7wsOcajDOv1CxPnYoUfErhy6Tf3iAPbB89NHvMjuR9Nyu0l1h2QE6CCPL2pQ/s1600-h/aerial_msnbc.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYHpjQy3Wfrhc4YDVGDOVrnj1EZ4386QPzzuqYUVOwFTyrYmHFWpFJJbksByDNqQf-BVxnD8q4cG7wsOcajDOv1CxPnYoUfErhy6Tf3iAPbB89NHvMjuR9Nyu0l1h2QE6CCPL2pQ/s400/aerial_msnbc.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028852305747400786" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Now, the issue is, what attitude was the plane before impact to make this crater, officially?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.ntsb.gov/info/Flight%20_Path_%20Study_UA93.pdf" target="_blank">According the the official NTSB report, the plane impacted the ground in an inverted position, at a 40 degree angle nose down.</a> The upside-down or inverted attitude of the plane is also noted by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93" target="_blank"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">wikipedia</span></a> and by "Among the Heroes" (Jere <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">Longman</span>, Harper-Collins 2002, p215).<br /><br />Thus, the government is telling a story where the plane was inverted before it impacted-- that the plane was upside-down or belly up as it hit the earth.<br /><br />The tail-mark at the north part of the crater in the aerial picture above supports the upside-down story as well. A tail mark made by a plane going southwards can ONLY be produced at the north side of the crater if the plane was going upside-down when it impacts.<br /><br />So what does it look like when the plane is going upside-down when it impacts? How would the plane FIT in the crater?<br /><br />I'm going to use this picture, where the camera is looking down one of the wing scars, to the west. North is to the right and south is to the left. Thus, the plane would come from the right.<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKFdeSTN0Jxy2oGlyYRb7dbXZ0Ui8nTOMv0sKU9pdJzheWgGOQjDF5E3G4tAxrPpxYMD66Qjy_7w8PpJ2KKXvRRSXIqlfYaqXfVc5VeYdQ086pNoJwKEPyy4mVaxLf54xTlN-Kag/s1600-h/00037r.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKFdeSTN0Jxy2oGlyYRb7dbXZ0Ui8nTOMv0sKU9pdJzheWgGOQjDF5E3G4tAxrPpxYMD66Qjy_7w8PpJ2KKXvRRSXIqlfYaqXfVc5VeYdQ086pNoJwKEPyy4mVaxLf54xTlN-Kag/s400/00037r.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029564851087681186" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Here is a diagram, with a plane superimposed onto the crater, using the picture above. (The tail end of the plane is cut off in this diagram because of size.)<br />(click to enlarge image)<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhBd6WQ6pcjYLgeCNgJHdWnwn-3_6igrXJ3IoJr0dQ4YAtOcv6isvWmGR_AQztVDGJFNvapd3YHJ6N112CpGoP_7y8zqSpV4YnLiwmSkPJIVN1s3kPYGIJnqG8FGCbDSgW3UkLOxQ/s1600-h/Slide3.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhBd6WQ6pcjYLgeCNgJHdWnwn-3_6igrXJ3IoJr0dQ4YAtOcv6isvWmGR_AQztVDGJFNvapd3YHJ6N112CpGoP_7y8zqSpV4YnLiwmSkPJIVN1s3kPYGIJnqG8FGCbDSgW3UkLOxQ/s400/Slide3.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029635894141724418" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Immediately, you should see there is a problem. <span style="font-weight: bold;"><br /><br />Even if the fuselage impacts at the very north part of the crater, THERE IS NO WAY THE WINGS CAN IMPACT THE GROUND TO PRODUCE THE WING SCARS.<br /><br />The wings simply do not line up in the right place.<br /><br />If you move the fuselage so that it impacts the ground further to the left (further southwards), the wing alignment problem is even worse.<br /><br />Further, it is impossible for the plane to flip backwards as it impacts, to have the wings produce the side scars, particularly when the plane (officially) is going 563 mph.<br /><br />If anything, the wings are going to slide further southwards as the plane breaks up, and make marks further south of the crater.<br /><br /></span><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 102);font-size:130%;" >I submit this wing alignment problem as rock-solid proof </span><span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 102);font-size:130%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;">that the official flight 93 crash story is a lie.</span></span><br />-------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Curiously, the wings DO LINE UP with the side scars, if the plane is right side up, as shown below--<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEigOjqc-cB0tZyUY1HNd8FYmoDAx0UjcxbUO-GzD1bSejV-1CX0r1HFoIMk1T1eqTrtuQ3YHy6XYLnfOdUIbL2WhBKAToMORfZQolewjz2-UfGt2tNdt2Ep3MSxj2P4B7GMkH-D0g/s1600-h/Slide4.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEigOjqc-cB0tZyUY1HNd8FYmoDAx0UjcxbUO-GzD1bSejV-1CX0r1HFoIMk1T1eqTrtuQ3YHy6XYLnfOdUIbL2WhBKAToMORfZQolewjz2-UfGt2tNdt2Ep3MSxj2P4B7GMkH-D0g/s400/Slide4.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029636005810874130" border="0" /></a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">However, if the plane was in fact right-side up as it impacted, why a) is the government lying about it, and b) what made the "tail" scar on the northern edge of the crater???</span><br /><br />I don't know exactly what happened at this crash scene.<br /><br />I strongly suspect the crater was made artificially, to make it LOOK as though an airplane crashed there, and then plane debris was strewn around the site. Perhaps a bomb or projectile of some sort was used to create the damage.<br /><br />In any case, the important point is that: <span style="font-weight: bold;">THE OFFICIAL FLIGHT 93 CRASH STORY IS A LIE, BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT. </span>spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-5235427173438256982008-02-09T11:55:00.001-08:002008-11-13T03:19:34.816-08:00Where'd the Fuselage Go?Let's look at this photo again of the Shanksville crater:<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEijygbetXsSZVWYDYE5cDONt81DAz8RWYCct_LR7W70Dc8QQRZ7O_wa6qj9G0czCCIfZ-8nBvQLwWOjoxDDdXy2xfxNgs6o_Pt9xcXLXqNGubCret3KUF1Vgtxhrm_zzQo6yOVUiQ/s1600-h/P200058-1.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEijygbetXsSZVWYDYE5cDONt81DAz8RWYCct_LR7W70Dc8QQRZ7O_wa6qj9G0czCCIfZ-8nBvQLwWOjoxDDdXy2xfxNgs6o_Pt9xcXLXqNGubCret3KUF1Vgtxhrm_zzQo6yOVUiQ/s400/P200058-1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5164675098289958434" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Here's the best possible match of a Boeing 757 with the Shanksvile crater, given the official trajectory of inverted impact, with the plane traveling in the basic direction of the top of the photo:<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLQq65fIHoX8KXpS7H7jZ6wgys08nWoLUiCePlhG5MZ7FCn3DBjpDemLe4MyPNt6kdAG7FA65QQRicWF4q7APCr02FTJhX29oXDv-yQVRbv8b_sA3ACUpOR6RfyuZ81Au7jqy3_w/s1600-h/93crater.2.9.08.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLQq65fIHoX8KXpS7H7jZ6wgys08nWoLUiCePlhG5MZ7FCn3DBjpDemLe4MyPNt6kdAG7FA65QQRicWF4q7APCr02FTJhX29oXDv-yQVRbv8b_sA3ACUpOR6RfyuZ81Au7jqy3_w/s400/93crater.2.9.08.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5165065986225026402" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Notice a wee problem?<br /><br />Even if we assume the whole plane both blew up into tiny pieces or burrowed into the ground (as the official story holds), the fuselage would have had to have make some sort of crater in the ground where it hit. But there is nothing there where the fuselage should have hit.<br /><br />This crater is bogus.<br /><br />This is a nice companion diagram to <a href="http://flight93hoax.blogspot.com/2007/02/final-nail-in-coffin-irrefutable-proof.html" target="_blank">my earlier proof regarding the Shanksville crater.<br /></a>spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1170286632799494222007-01-31T15:36:00.000-08:002007-01-31T15:39:48.936-08:00More Engine Trouble<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/5459/522/1600/481067/debris_rcfp1.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/5459/522/400/128535/debris_rcfp1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><br />This is officially one of the engines from flight 93, apparently freshly unearthed.<br /><br />However, there are a few problems with this scene:<br /><br />1) why did this engine go in the ground but<a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/01/planted-engines-at-shanksville.html" target="_blank"> the other one</a> went flying away?<br /><br />2) how exactly was it, that this heavy engine impacting the ground at 600 mph, only went ONE FOOT underground-- when the black boxes in the TAIL of the plane went at least 15 feet underground?<br /><br />3) are they really using an excavator to dig out a hole that is in theory packed with human remains? Shouldn't they be doing this excavation a little more delicately?<br /><br />4) as best as I can tell, <a href="http://killtown.911review.org/images/wtc-gallery/nist1-2d/5-42_pw4000-engine.jpg" target="_blank">this is the rear half of a crumpled up turbofan engine</a>. Where is the front half?<br /><br />5) <span style="font-weight: bold;">most interestingly, the engine looks as though it went into the ground at close to a 90 degree angle. How can this be the case, when officially flight 93 hit the ground at a 45 degree angle?</span><br /><br />But the story gets even more strange!<br /><br />Although the engine is clearly not at a 45 degree angle (as the official account would hold), the engine is actually at about a 70 degree angle, where 90 degrees is straight vertical. <br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">This picture nonetheless deviates drastically from the official story.</span><br /><br />You should be able to see in the picture that there are trees in the background. The only foliage near the crash site was straight to the west. This means the picture was taken to the east of the crater looking west. (See here for a high-res version of the <a href="http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/jpg/P200060-1.jpg" target="_blank">photo</a>.)<br /><br />This means the topmost part of the engine is leaning TOWARDS THE SOUTH. <br /><br />Officially, the plane came from the north, heading south, and if the plane went into the ground at some angle (most sources say 45 degrees), the engine should be positioned with the topmost part tipping significantly to the north. In other words, the engine debris should be leaning northwards. In this picture, the engine is tilted completely the wrong direction! <br /><br />It is extremely unlikely the engine was tilted the opposite way during the digging process, since removal of dirt on the northern side if anything should have made the engine tilt more in that direction, which would have supported the official story more. Further, if the engine was moved significantly prior to the picture being taken, it invalidates this official evidence.<br /><br />I think the engine was moved from its original location before the picture was taken -- and most likely was planted to bolster the case for a 757 crash at this site.spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1170187347386609702007-01-30T11:59:00.000-08:002007-01-30T12:02:27.396-08:00Engine TroubleKilltown takes on what exactly happened to the two flight 93 engines.<br /><br /><a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/01/planted-engines-at-shanksville.html">Bottom line: one may have been planted, the other one fictitious.</a><br /><br />Here's a question-- is the engine that was supposedly dug out of the hole going the right way?spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1168963339060281852007-01-16T08:02:00.000-08:002007-01-29T07:29:47.163-08:00Flight 93 Crater Thread at DUUPDATE: <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=137373&mesg_id=137373">Newer thread here.</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=132868&mesg_id=132868" target="_blank">Here.</a><br /><br />I've been trying for about a week to convince the resident skeptics (and likely operatives) that it is very unlikely that a Boeing 757 crashed in this crater:<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/5459/522/1600/870231/crater_rcfp.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/5459/522/400/750839/crater_rcfp.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Feel free to chime in at DU. I could use some help fighting the skeptics.spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1170084439359757362007-01-29T07:27:00.000-08:002007-01-29T07:27:19.360-08:00Dimensions of the Flight 93 Official Crash Crater: Proof No Boeing 757 Crashed ThereUsing the <a href="http://killtown.911review.org/flight93/gallery.html" target="_blank">pictures here</a>, I finally decided to get a solid estimate for the flight 93 official crash crater. I used the men on the ground next to the crater in the various pictures to estimate the crater size, and assumed each man was 6 feet tall.<br /><br />UA93 officially was a Boeing 757.<a href="http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=101" target="_blank"> A Boeing 757 (the plane UA93 was officially) has a 125 foot wingspan,</a> and the engines are 43 feet apart (measuring from the middle of each engine looking at the front of the plane).<br /><br /><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The problem is that the 93 crash crater shows only 30 feet-- at MOST-- between engine scars:</span></span><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/5459/522/1600/307272/93%20crater.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/5459/522/400/805700/93%20crater.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Considering that the a plane HAD to have come down with both engines hitting roughly the same time on the ground to produce the observed crash scar, <span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 102);font-size:130%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;">I submit the 30 foot distance between engines as proof no Boeing 757 crashed to make this crater.</span></span>spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1167345441218096582006-12-28T14:37:00.000-08:002006-12-28T14:37:21.226-08:00On the Fake Flight 93 Shoot-down Story and the Fake Todd Beamer Call<a href="http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr90.html" target="_blank">Dave McGowan continues his analysis of Flight 93.</a><br /><br />He's found one new important fact-- Lisa Jefferson, the GE operator that Todd Beamer supposedly talked to, has links to a CIA-front operation. <br /><br />The other info in the article isn't new, but McGowan puts it together probably better than anyone else has before.spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1167227287953184672006-12-27T05:46:00.000-08:002006-12-27T06:02:04.656-08:00When Did the Forest Near the Crash Crater Burn?<a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/12/shanksville-forest-mostly-burned-after.html">Killtown makes a case that it burned largely after 9/11.</a><br /><br />It seems to me as though some of the trees were on fire early on 9/11, but perhaps the fire burned on for a while-- flared-up overnight? Was that on purpose?<br /><br />Why wasn't more attempt made to put out the forest fire?<br /><br />Also, why were the tops of the trees on fire while the ground below was largely left untouched?spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1166463182109577992006-12-18T09:31:00.000-08:002006-12-18T09:33:42.000-08:00All Public Flight 93 Crash ImagesArchived <a href="http://killtown.911review.org/flight93/gallery.html" target="_blank">here</a> by Killtown.<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;"><br />Kudos to Killtown for putting this together!</span>spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1166462406145211372006-12-18T09:17:00.000-08:002006-12-18T09:20:06.163-08:00Scrap Metal Dumped at Crash Site from Nearby Junkyard?<a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/12/metal-scraps-at-shanksville-and-more.html" target="_blank">Killtown wonders.</a>spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1164897323818378522006-11-30T06:34:00.000-08:002006-11-30T06:35:23.820-08:00Rare News Footage Describing the Crash Site<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JZekosYOmXc"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JZekosYOmXc" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1164897249122326992006-11-30T06:32:00.000-08:002006-11-30T06:34:09.123-08:00Raytheon Drone and Microwave Weapon Involved in Shanksville Crash Scene?<a href="http://www.total911.info/2006/11/star-wars-microwave-weapon-used-at.html">Makes about as much sense</a> as anything else, I suppose.spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1162607776813855112006-11-03T18:32:00.000-08:002006-11-30T06:32:46.270-08:00Some Ideas on the Crash Crater and the Burnt Trees<a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/11/faked-shanksville-crater-and-burnt.html" target="_blank">from Killtown.</a><br /><br />I'm not sure I buy the idea of ordnance bouncing out of the crater to hit the trees, but overall I think there is something to the idea that something bounced out that way.<br /><br />Tere was quite a bit of debris thrown into the forest-- not a huge amount, as far as I can tell, but still a fair amount, which included victims' remains and some clothes from the luggage. Was there some explosive package that contained this stuff that was dropped from above? <br /><br />All I know for sure is the flight 93 crater makes no sense for a crash of a 757.spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1161313896873329222006-10-19T20:08:00.000-07:002006-10-19T20:11:36.886-07:00Good Overview of the Various Flight 93 Crash Images<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Yr-BRjSWxLg"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Yr-BRjSWxLg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object><br /><br />This image is amazing:<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/flight93%20ghost%20crater.jpg"><img style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/400/flight93%20ghost%20crater.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br /><br />It's like some sort of ghostplane hit the ground, dug a crater and disappeared.spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1157423598769539972006-09-04T19:33:00.000-07:002006-09-04T19:33:18.793-07:00One Last Visit to the Flight 93 Crash Site?Here is the basic layout of the flight 93 crash site (all based on official accounts and sources):<br />A) <a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/flight%2093%20crater.0.jpg" target="_blank">an impact crater in a open field, about 10 feet deep, 30 feet by 10 feet in dimensions, with what looks like wing marks out to each side.</a><br />B) <a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/Flight93CraterReuters.1.jpg" target="_blank">badly burnt trees</a>, about <a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/shanks-plume-1000ft.gif" target="_blank">200 feet from the impact crater</a>, at the edge of a small forest. Curiously, this <a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/pm-map-flight-paths.png" target="_blank">damage was not in line with the official flight path</a>.<br />C) <a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/flight%2093%20crater.0.jpg" target="_blank">No large recognizable plane debris was anywhere around the impact crater</a>. Officially, <a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/pm-map-flight-paths.png" target="_blank">one engine was found 800-1000 feet away, in line with the plane path</a>, and officially, the burned forest had plane debris, <a href="http://flight93hoax.blogspot.com/2006/04/highly-suspicious-wreckage.html" target="_blank">including fuselage parts</a>. Also, officially, <a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/debris.93.engine.jpg" target="_blank">one engine was found lodged in or near the impact crater</a> and the <a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010915blackbox0915p3.asp" target="_blank">cockpit data recorder (normally located in the tail section) was found very deep down in the impact crater (25 feet)</a>. There are no clear reports that I am aware of finding any main landing gear, wing pieces, tail sections or intact seats. A <a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/columnists/20020911roddy0911p5.asp" target="_blank">significant amount of small debris was found up to eight miles from the official crash site.</a> <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x42307" target="_blank">Reports on how much of the total plane was recovered are conflicted.</a> Officially, <a href="http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1161" target="_blank">only very small amounts of passenger remains were found.</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1161" target="_blank">For further reading, I highly recommend this page, which has a very excellent and extensive analysis of the flight 93 crash scene, with links to only mainstream news articles. </a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">SO, how do we explain this crash site?</span><br /><br />The most extended official explanation for the flight 93 crash comes from Jere Longman's "Among the Heroes" (as far as I know, there is no NTSB report on the crash). In that book, he posits that before crashing, the plane was flying upside down (based on eyewitness reports and the crater alignment). The plane then hit at a 45 degree angle and the front third of the plane shattered completely on the ground, spewing debris all around. The rear two thirds of the plane rammed deep into the soft earth, and crumpled in an accordion-like fashion. This would explain the black boxes being deep in the ground. The front fuselage apparently shattered into very small fragments. Longman does not explain what happened to the tail section and wings. He says the passengers and crew were completely torn apart, and that the main remains were small fragments of skin. It is not clear what happened to the skeletal remains or teeth of the passengers.<br /><br />This explanation is of course absurd, as this story defies physics. Basically it is impossible that the front of the plane disintegrate while the rear part of the plane enter the ground as an intact piece. This is akin to ramming a pretzel stick into an orange, where the front one third of the pencil smashes into crumbs right before the rear two-thirds penetrate the skin and drive deep into the fruit. One could see the whole pretzel stick penetrating the orange, or the front of the pretzel breaking off before the rest goes in-- but in this case the front piece would not turn into tiny crumbs. Basically, any material that is strong enough to cause the front of a projectile to smash apart is not going to allow the rear part of the projectile to slide completely in.<br /><br />It is also absurd to think that the huge tail section went into the ground completely, yet how else to explain the black boxes being so deep underground, since the black boxes are kept in the tail section? The idea ANY sort of projectile could drive itself 25' deep under the soil is absurd.<br /><br />So the official story is a lie. There is no doubt.<br /><br />But clearly the shoot-down story that many people persist in believing is a lie as well. No shot down plane will crash like this either.<br /><br />Frankly, the easiest explanation for the whole crash scene is that it was a staged hoax-- where there were planted explosives along with some junk debris that went off to coincide with a plane flying over. Then plane parts and body parts were planted, and debris was strewn over a wide area to be misleading. It is curious to note how the 9/11 commission says flight 93 officially crashed at 10:03 am, but the explosion by many accounts wasn't until 10:06am. This could be explained by a discrepency in whatever the plane was doing that was mimicking flight 93 versus the actual explosion. Finally, of course, the many phone calls from flight 93 are highly suspicious due to a number of abnormalities, and were likely another layer of deception.<br /><br />Nonetheless, I welcome any other explanation for the flight 93 crash site that takes into account the facts as I outlined above. You can contact me by email (spooked911@hotmail.com).spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1156564554628980642006-08-25T20:55:00.000-07:002006-08-25T20:57:28.986-07:00Yet Another Plane Crash Leaves Recognizable Debris and Bodies<a href="http://english.pravda.ru/photo/report/plane-790/4/" target="_blank">Unbelievable!</a><br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/plane8.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/400/plane8.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/plane7.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/400/plane7.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/plane6.jpg"><img style="cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/400/plane6.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/russia_plane" target="_blank">Even bodies that could be put in body bags.</a><br /><br />This was a large plane that fell from the sky at over 30,000 feet. It was going fast.<br /><br /><a href="http://postmanpatel.blogspot.com/2006/08/911-mystery-ukraine-air-crash-all-140.html" target="_blank">Postman Patel has more, with some good links.</a>spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17266613.post-1156130223258948222006-08-20T20:08:00.000-07:002006-08-20T20:17:03.260-07:00Photo-Shopping the Flight 93 Smoke Plume<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/val4js8.jpg"><img style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/400/val4js8.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br /><a href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004" taget="_blank">It ain't hard at all.</a><br /><br />And there is a lot more where that came from.spookedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266697181345871878noreply@blogger.com